Wow, it took me a long time to get this photo in from ShawPhotoshare. Not sure why it was so awkward... Anyway, Ive been working towards making some new knives this summer. Been a bit slammed with work, but have needed some new carving knives since my pal Mike from Preferred Edge passed away. I fooled around a bit with 5160 steel, but had to send away to Alabama Damascus Steel to get it in 1/8th", and the postage was too high for me, so I think I'll wait to use 5160 again until I get a forge and proper anvil. So these are O1 steel, medium sized bent blade and straight knife. Mike used to use L6 steel, which was dead tough, but I had some trouble with some of them keeping an edge, so I thought I'd try this steel. Mine are a bit more home-made looking, rather than the beautiful hand-crafted pieces I see on this forum, but I hope to get better with my grinding and finishing. I had some trouble with one blade from a batch of four smaller knives like these. The longest, thin blade bent while putting a final edge on it. I remember Mike saying that he used a pan of cat litter to temper in. He'd bring it up to temperature, than put the small blades in, so that they wouldn't overheat when the elements came on. Anyone else do that? is it worth trying?