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Discussion in '2013 KITH' started by Grayzer86, Mar 1, 2013.

  1. Grayzer86

    Grayzer86 Active Member

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    Well i started, again, and this one is currently in the dumpster outside my house. I am now on my third go at this and have decided that not only do I officially hate scandi grinds, but after this is over i may honestly consider never making another one. I currently have two nice little full flat ground knives that started as my scandis and had a grind get too high on one side. The last one wobbled as i burned my finger and basically destroyed its own plunge in a split second. I have never had an ounce of trouble with a full flat grind, and cant for the life of me see why this is giving me so many problems. Back to the rough belts and bar stock we go. Good thing i had 7 feet of stock when i started.....
     
  2. Rob W

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    Grayz i feel your pain ,
    i tossed my first scandi grind and i thought it was quite good !!! I had severe pitting near the spine that just wouldnt sand out , pits just got bigger so i tossed it as well, now i have a nice flat grind scandi that i'm sticking with , heat treat tomorrow , tried to post a picture but new photobucket is a pain in the butt to upload
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  3. Grayzer86

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    Well.....lol. If thats the case i guess i may be able to stop pulling out what little hair i had when i started this project haha. Thanks Rob
     
  4. Rob W

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    FINALLY FIGURED OUT THE NEW PHOTOBUCKET ADDING PICS THING , HERE IT IS GRAYZ


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  5. stevebates

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    Those scandi grinds can yield some interesting vocabulary but I think those full flat grinds look pretty slick. I do my scandi grinds free hand but have to be honest many of mine were more than close to being picked up Tuesday morning (garbage day)...lol!! I've been wanting to do some hollow grinding but I don't have a tool table built yet and trying that freehand would be extremely nasty I think...any thoughts on the freehand hollow grinding easy? Or don't even attempt?
     
  6. Grayzer86

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    I have never tried any hollow grinding since I don't have a contact wheel for my grinder yet, but plan to fairly soon. That's funny Steve, my garbage day is also Tuesday. Now my issue will be trying to somehow get the cpm154 heat treated in time since the two flats I did a while back for this project are in that steel. Looks like I better get on the phone tomorrow and get this show on the road. Hopefully I can find someone who will do it fast on short notice.
     
  7. Mythtaken

    Mythtaken Staff Member CKM Staff

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    The third time's the charm. At least it was for me. Once I got it figured out, I kinda like that scandi grind. The handle, now... that's going to be another story. Hmmm. Maybe I should start working on number four in the meantime.
     
  8. Jim T

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    Gotta agree with you, Brandon. That scandi grind is coming close to driving me up the wall, especially with the deadline looming. Whoever gets mine might end up with knife with a flat grind. I'm going through way too much steel trying to get an even, decent scandi grind. It certainly is turning out to be quite the learning experience. Hope I have some hair left at the end of it. Keep yanking more and more out in frustration. :rant:

    Jim T
     
  9. metal99

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    I'm the opposite lol I have a heck of a time getting a nice flat grind.
     
  10. Icho-

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    My grinds are horrible. I don't know if it it because of my jumpy underpowered little grinder or if I just suck. I have been roughing out with the grinder then flatten and even it out with files and stones.
     
  11. Jim T

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    Glad I'm not alone in my frustrated attempts at a decent grind. You know the old addage, misery loves company. Oh well, the idea is to push beyond our comfort zones, right? Don't give up the struggle, brothers.

    Jim T
     
  12. metal99

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    I have to do the same thing man.
     
  13. Grayzer86

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    This may sound cruel but it is somewhat reassuring to see that others are having issues with this build too. I in no way want others to have problems, but at least it lets me know I am not the only one who seems to be having setbacks. Hope everyone gets it all figured out and can get back on track. The best thing for me was taking a day to go back to an older project and spend some time on that. Gave me some time to think it over and relax while working on something that was a spare time project and had no pressure on it.
     
  14. Rob W

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    YUP SOMETIMES THE BEST THING TO DO IS PUT IT ASIDE FOR ANOTHER DAY..................WHO CAME UP WITH THIS SCANDI IDEA ANYWAYS :rolleyes:??? I KNOW I WILL PUT THIS ONE BEHIND ME AND GO AT IT AGAIN ON ANOTHER AND IT WILL BE BETTER THAN THE LAST...........MY SHOP MOTTO REMAINS, "MAKE IT EVEN BETTER THAN THE LAST" !! I'M QUENCHING 2 AS WE SPEAK ........ :hat:
     
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  15. Mythtaken

    Mythtaken Staff Member CKM Staff

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    If your grinder is low on power, I found it better to use light passes. It feels like it takes forever, but it should make the grind smoother and more even.
     
  16. Icho-

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    It seems like I don't hold the blade flat enough to the belt ant when I flatten it out more it starts getting ugly. I think it may be more of a comfort thing. Since the grinder is so small I'm actually considering tilting the whole grinder. Maby even screw it to the wall. Lol.
     
  17. metal99

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    Does your grinder have a super flimsy platen? Mine does and it sure makes things tricky. Plus the crappy little belts have a nice bump at the seam.
     
  18. Icho-

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    Very flimsy platen. The is noticeable but it doesn't bother me too much but it is very jumpy. Really bad tracking. I cant get it to track to the left so I end up having a lot of material to file out on one side to match the other.
     
  19. metal99

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    I bought a second hand 1x42 and he glued some 1000 grit sand paper to the tracking pulley. He said it made a fairly big difference in tracking control. It might be worth a shot anyway.
     
  20. Icho-

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    I think I have to clear the casting next to the tracking wheel. It actually interferes when I try to track to the left. I will definately try the sand paper after I clear the casting.
     

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