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New To My Workbench

Discussion in 'Grinders' started by mwilson, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. mwilson

    mwilson New Member

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    Hey guys,

    Kijiji can rule at times. Recently I have been complaining about the lack of availability in belt sanders in Canada. I'm sure that you can all relate. The HF 1x30 and crafstman 2x42 are economical, albeit maybe not the top of the line. But both are not available in canada.


    King tools and Busy bee see a 1x30, so does lee valley, but they are 3x the price of the HF one.

    I had resigned myself to waiting and saving up for a 2x72.

    Anyways, I keep an eye of kijiji and got a great deal on a mastercraft 1x30 that has seen very little use.

    Until today, I have been operating with hand files (and a newly made bevel jig), a drill press and a hacksaw. and sandpaper of course. Today I am happy to add a 1x30 belt sander to the mix.

    Here it is.

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    I am more excited about this find than I probably should be, but anyways...

    this will be my first foray into belt sanders, and I am aware of some of the limitations of this device. I am not intending for this to be hogging large amounts of stock away, and I know that I is not intended for knife grinding.

    I hope that it will be a useful addition in scales shaping and i'll be honest I plan to try my hand at profiling and bevels with it as well.

    Any recommendations, tips, or suggestions are welcome.

    Cheers,
    M
     
  2. Bushdriver

    Bushdriver New Member

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    Let me know how it works out, I've been looking into the king 1x30 as an economical way to get up and running again
     
  3. Icho-

    Icho- Staff Member

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    It's definitely not a 2 x 72 but it is way better than just a file. I made at least my first 7 knives with a HF 1 x 30 and I don't regret buying it. Can't wait to see what you make with it.
     
  4. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker Best Shop Tool

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    I've got the same Mastercraft unit. Going rate is around $30 to $40 used. Good little machines and easy to find all kinds of belts for it. It does wonders on wood and leather too. You'll always find a use for it even if you get a 2x72" later.

    I made one little "sub bench" for it with a water cup (yogurt container) holder.
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    Dan
     
  5. mwilson

    mwilson New Member

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    Bushdriver and Icho, I can't wait to get some appropriate belts and get using it!

    Dan, I see that you also removed the disc side of the sander. Is this because it has no practical use? is there a different attachment I could fashion to replace it? ( a buffer comes to mind, though i know NOTHING about them)
     
  6. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker Best Shop Tool

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    It is perfectly useful as a disk sander and will come in handy. The reason I removed it was when I was doing bevel grinds and approaching from the right side my work jacket sleeve would hit the disk. As I have another larger disk sander, I removed this one. It has a keyed shaft, however small. I guess you could attached something to the motor, but I would recommend leaving it on and not wearing a jacket with that kind of sleeves. Hey, summer is almost here right? LOL

    Dan
     
  7. shadman

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    i've had a mastercraft 1x30 that ive abused for 20 years now-love it as it does lots of intricate jobs-can even get scotchbrite belts for them.actually used it so much had to replace the tracking wheel as it flew off one day
     
  8. mwilson

    mwilson New Member

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    I just ordered some new steel to play with and some blaze belts in 60 and 120. I chose the blaze ones after doing some thread searches on a couple different forums.

    After you mentioned it, I went back and saw the scotchbrite belts and leather ones too. there's a larger selection than I had anticipated, which is a pleasant surprise.

    I'll take your advice and use the disc side as it is.

    I've got a few smaller designs in mind, and I'm going to be spending the next week or so anxiously sketching so I'm ready when everything arrives.

    In the mean time, I might pick up some belts for wood and use them to finish the scales of my current project.

    It has been warm enough outside to heat treat a few days, unfortunately I have been working those days. I hope to get the heat treat done in the next few days.

    Thanks everyone, it sounds like I didn't throw my money away

    Matt
     
  9. Splash

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  10. Splash

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    Sorry, ipad issues didn't let me reply properly...

    I really like the two 1x30 grinders I wore out. Mine were a little plasticy, but I was also working them beyond their limitations. Can get into some little spots with those belts, and I know Lee Valley tools has lots of belt selection. I ended up buying a 1x42 (I think that's the right belt size) Veil grinder from LV, but you can get more direct from the company, and also some other tool holders.
    http://www.vieltools.com

    I'm still learning to use grinder as opposed to using files. Good or bad, grinders make stuff happen quick.
     
  11. mwilson

    mwilson New Member

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    Splash you are absolutely right about stuff happening fast. I appreciate the link to viel tools. I was unaware of them until you mentioned them.

    I am really happy with the 1x30 that i got, and i can't believe how fast things go in comparison. I am nervous to try bevels with it, as I have no experience there, and am unsure of myself. Youtube videos can only take me so far....
     
  12. Icho-

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    You should just go for it. Maybe start out making a decent size hunter. scribe some lines on it to go to. Even if you go to far on one side you just practice making the opposite side match. It seems like I screw up every knife I make. Lol. In the end it is how you fix it and I feel that is the true practice. Just jump in. Worst case that 4-5" hunter turns out to be a 2" paring knife. Then your next knife can be a hunter. Lol
     
  13. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker Best Shop Tool

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    Matt,

    This was my solution to the bevel issue.

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    A piece of 3/4" plywood cut at a slight angle on the mitre saw. I held the blade against this to keep the angle consistent.

    Eventually the scandi comes to life.

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    Don't be afraid to make little blocks of wood or jigs to help out. Once you get the motion, you can go freehand and give that a try.

    BTW, this was my first knife ever and it turned out okay.


    Dan
     
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  14. mwilson

    mwilson New Member

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    Thanks Dan, Icho for the suggestions.

    Dan, I'm going to try to make a jig like you showed in your photos tonight. I'll let you know how it goes. Icho, I'll try your suggestion as well, though my current project is a trio, and I want them to be as similar as possible, so I'll wait for the next round to try freehand.
     

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