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Knife Making Suppliers In Canada

Discussion in 'Canadian Suppliers' started by ToddR, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. ToddR

    ToddR Putterer, Tinkerer, Waster of Time Staff Member

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    Hi all. I am just wondering if anybody out there knows of any knife making supply locations in Southern Ontario. I know that our Alberta friends are all set but I don't know of any in this part of the country. I'm about an hour outside of London but I'd travel a couple hours to stock up. I also have family in Windsor so really anything between Windsor and Toronto would have potential.

    I love that we have so many quality suppliers online but, frankly, the shipping costs are colossal. Most of the time the orders I put in cost more to ship than they do for the actual supplies. Often there's no steel or anything particularly heavy in the order either. It gets to be a little out of hand. That and I'd prefer to take a look around in a retail location to discover things i didn't know existed (or needed) and to generally window shop I suppose.

    Thanks guys. I appreciate any info you have.

    PS - anybody going to the woodshow in Woodstock this weekend?
     
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  2. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker Best Shop Tool

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    The closest to you that I know of would be Mike Mossington. He's up in North Bay. I had him ship me some 36" pieces of steel and the freight he quoted was very reasonable; ala slow boat Canada Post. Super guy to work with. Give him a call.
    http://www.mossingtonknives.com/

    Dan
     
  3. Slannesh

    Slannesh Active Member

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    Any other sources of 1084 in Canada that anyone knows about? Seems that Knifemaker.ca might be out for a while.
     
  4. ToddR

    ToddR Putterer, Tinkerer, Waster of Time Staff Member

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    i have never found any others in Canada myself. While looking, i did find a link that suggested the place in New Jersey where knifemaker.ca buys from though. They will, alledegly, ship to Canada.

    Again, it's not a Canadian supplier but here's the link http://newjerseysteelbaron.com
     
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  5. Slannesh

    Slannesh Active Member

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    Messaged them last night myself and got a response that they will ship to Canada too. Just need to figure out how much shipping and customs will come to. Ugh.
     
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  6. SDMay

    SDMay Active Member

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    Slannesh will you let me know what they say? I am looking for 1084 as well.
     
  7. Brad

    Brad Active Member

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    I have used the New Jersey Steel baron before. Good outfit to deal with and top of the line steel. The only problem is our exchange rate for cad to usd. Rob at Canadian Knifemaking supplies is great to deal with too
     
  8. Slannesh

    Slannesh Active Member

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    Yeah Rob is who I've dealt with in the past. But he's apparently been waiting for a carbon steel shipment since May and he's getting pretty low on supplies. Totally out of 1084. That being said after doing some reading it sounds like 80CRV2 is very similar.
     
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  10. Slannesh

    Slannesh Active Member

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    Cool, I had seen the 1080+ thing before...
     
  11. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    if my guess is not off the 80Crv2 will get a slightly better Hamon
     
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    SDMay Active Member

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    I've seen the 80CRV2 as well as the 1080+ and was thinking of ordering some but I am worried about the heat treat as I am using a brick forge and a MAPP torch. Any ideas how it will work?
     
  13. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    from the horses mouth, I typically skip knife making forums for heat treating information so I don't have to filter out so many old wives tails or home brew heat treating schedules that are just good enough.

    http://www.ccsteels.com/Tool_steel/160.html
     
  14. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    DIN 80CrV2 / W-Nr 1.2235 - DATA SHEET

    MATERIAL CATEGORY: Cold work alloy tool steel

    TYPICAL APPLICATIONS
    Alloy tool steel
    is widely used to produce the cutting tool, cold/heat distortion mould and measuring implements,
    and further to manufacture the piston, valve, valve seat of fuel pump of diesel engine.
    Cutting tools
    Mechanical parts
    Air hammer tools
    Piercing tools

    PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
    The alloy is usually produced by EAF /VD /LF followed by electroslag refining (ESR) if necessary for special purpose.
    Bars and, where applicable, forgings are subjected to ultrasonic examination based on the different level according to the buyers' requirements.
    Bars are usually supplied bright in the softened condition.
    Final heat treatment - heat treatment / QT

    MATERIAL SPECIFICATIONS
    EN ISO 4957: 2000 , DIN 17350 (1980)

    AVAILABLE SHAPES
    Black bar /Flat bar /Square bar
    Bright - peeled + polishing /centerless grinding / peeled + slidabrading
    Forged - ring /tube /pipe casing /discs /shaft
    CHEMICAL COMPOSITION (WEIGHT %) - DIN 80CrV2 / W-Nr 1.2235
    C(%): 0.75~0.85
    Si(%): 0.25~0.40
    Mn(%): 0.30~0.50
    P(%)≤: 0.030
    S(%)≤: 0.030
    Cr(%): 0.40~0.70
    Mo(%): —
    V(%): 0.15~0.25
    Other(%): —

    MECHANICAL PROPERTIES - HOT WORKING, HEAT TREATMENT AND HARDNESS
    Hot working temperature /℃: 1050~800
    Annealing temperature /℃: 680~710
    Hardness after annealing ≤HBW: 250
    Quenching temperature /℃: 800~830
    Cooling medium: oil
    Common tempering temperature /℃: 180~300
    Hardness after tempering at temperature HRC|100℃: 63
    Hardness after tempering at temperature HRC|200℃: 60
    Hardness after tempering at temperature HRC|300℃: 55
    Hardness after tempering at temperature HRC|400℃: 50
     
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  15. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    just found something interesting for the reuse and recycle guys. AISI 6150 is commonly found in the motor vehicle industry AISI 6150 is suitable for many general engineering applications that require high tensile strength and toughness.
    Typical applications include crankshafts, steering knuckles, spindles, pumps and gears.

    Brit site has lots of heat treating and common uses listed
    alternative listing for AISI 1080 on this page and common uses.
    for 1080
    http://www.westyorkssteel.com/spring-steel/cs80/

    for 1095
    http://www.westyorkssteel.com/spring-steel/cs95/

    if you read between the lines there is mention of circular saw or wood cutting saw blades. 1080 is for 3mm thick blades and thicker and 75Cr1 for thinner.
    If cold cut saws for ferrous and non ferrous materials then the go to material is 1080 or so close the heat treating is the same.
     
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  16. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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  17. ToddR

    ToddR Putterer, Tinkerer, Waster of Time Staff Member

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    I think I may just go look for some old leaf springs and get myself an anvil. I could use the exercise anyhow.
     
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    Icho- Staff Member

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    I will also say that Mike Mossington is a great choice in Ontario. Another place I have been to is On The Edge. http://www.on-the-edge.ca/103supplies-pg.html He is in Ingersol, Ontario but I don't think he ships so depending where you live he may not be an option. If you can make it out to on the edge I recommend you do your homework and research prices before you go. If you are interested in O-1, A2 or D2 you can try KBC tools and machinery. It comes as flat ground bars in a wide variety of sizes They have a few stores in Ontario and I think BC.
     
  19. ToddR

    ToddR Putterer, Tinkerer, Waster of Time Staff Member

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    Thanks everyone for all of the helpful information, as usual....
     
  20. Camil

    Camil New Member

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    ToddR I was wondering, you said that Alberta was all set. Is there a supplier in Alberta?
     

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