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Just Started Into Knife Making.

Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by Benny28, May 11, 2015.

  1. Benny28

    Benny28 New Member

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    Hey knife makers!

    So a few of the guys at work (manufacture concrete pump trucks) went digging in the crap bin at at work and found some hardened steel and decided to make some knives.

    I have to say, we are hooked. We kinda formed a knife making club... I know... It's kinda gay, but we really sucked at bowling...

    Anyway, we are quite new to knife making and don't have a lot of knowledge, so I might come and ask some questions here and there and post some pics for you guys to rip on. (It's all good, I can take it.)

    This is my first.
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    This is after I used 80, 120, 220, 320, 400, 600, 800 grits, then orange, green and white compound.
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    I am making a full tang handle out of lacewood. I had some leftover from a guitar build.

    Anyway, I just wanted to say hi and I look forward to learning more about this fun new hobby.
    Talk soon,
    Ben.
     
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  2. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker

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    Hi Ben,

    Welcome to the forum! Great to see you got the image thing figured out. That's a great start.

    If you have any questions, please fire away.

    Dan
     
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  3. Mythtaken

    Mythtaken Staff Member CKM Staff

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    Welcome to CKM, @Benny28.

    The group thing is actually a pretty good idea. Having other makers around to share and compare with helps keep you going and improving. That's a big part of what this forum is about.

    That blade looks pretty good. How are you planning to do your heat treating?
     
  4. Benny28

    Benny28 New Member

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    We are planning on having a heat treating/tempering/family BBQ in June.
    One of my co workers and knife club members, has a rather large property with a pool (for our wife's and kids) and has an old barn that he's turned into a shop (restores hot rods on the side) figured we make a day of it.
    While that rest or our families are having fun in the pool, the guys are going to have fun in the shop.

    We were going to rig up an old charcoal BBQ with air blowing into it and do the magnet test when it gets hot and use old motor oil. Will use an oven to temper the blades.

    Should be a fun day for all.
     
  5. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker

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    Man that sounds like fun! Where you at? Can I come over? I'll bring my own beer! LOL

    I'd recommend going down to the supermarket and picking up some cheap vegetable oil for quenching. Or scavenge some from the recycle tank behind a restaurant. Note that the quench oil will heat up with successive quenches. Lots of us have used motor oil, but for a few reasons, it is a poor choice. Toxic cloud, poor thermal transfer etc.

    All the best. It would be great to see some photos.

    Dan
     
  6. Benny28

    Benny28 New Member

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    Hey Dan, we are just outside vancouver, BC.
    Vegetable oil sounds better the toxic fumes, for sure.
    I'll definitely post some pictures.
     
  7. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker

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    Ya when I lived in B.C. there were plenty of "toxic clouds" around the backyard. ;-)

    Dan
     
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    Rob W Active Member

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    give me a shout if you make it to Kelowna
     
  9. Mythtaken

    Mythtaken Staff Member CKM Staff

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    Sounds like a fun time. Just remember that since you're using scrap metal, heat treating may not produce the results you expect. Still, it's a great start and I hope you take lots of pictures and or video to share.
     
  10. Benny28

    Benny28 New Member

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    I will for sure. I've already started on a new knife for camping. I'll post some pictures later this weekend. It's made of 5/16th hardened steel. Can't wait to finish it.
     
  11. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker

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    Hi Benny,

    It's awesome that you guys are making knives!

    My recommendation is that you do your gang a huge favour. Order up some real knife making steel. Something like 1084 from Rob & Marilyn at Canadian Knifemaker Supply. It's reasonably cheap, around 75 cents an in inch, and everyone who will be making a knife will have something that's really good for a start...We're talking a knife, useful and durable that you can pass down to your kids.

    Also, everyone can heat treat with the same simple recipe and you can compare knives "apples to apples". I assure you, if the heat treat goes well, (which with a little study you can certainly do), you'll be impressed with 1084 and you will use it again. It's this versus a hunk of low carbon or unknown steel that will probably not result in a knife as expected.

    My two cents anyway.

    I hope that you have lots of fun in the making of your knives.

    Dan
     
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    Funny you should write this, I was just about to post a question.

    What steel should I use to make a decent chef's knife?
    I have a henckels at home that my wife gave me fore Christmas 4 years ago and my chefs knife broke at the handle. So I was thinking about making myself a new one.

    Any wisdom would be great, would 1084 be good for chefs knife?
     
  13. dancom

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    As 1084 isn't stainless it needs a little extra care, but it certainly can make a wicked chef's knife. Most will agree, it's the best steel to start knifemaking with.

    I might also recommend starting small. Something with an overall length around 8 or 9 inches. Shorter means overall less work, easier heat treatment (fits in the toaster oven for tempering) and less likely to warp during heat treatment.

    Dan
     
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  14. Benny28

    Benny28 New Member

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    Hey Dan, I've noticed that your knives have your logo on them.
    How would I go about doing this?
    I'm thinking about making three chef knives. One for my father inlaw, my dad and myself. I might name my knives after my son, Jackson, so it would be cool to have a logo.

    Thanks,
    Ben.
     
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  16. snailgixxer

    snailgixxer Golf season is here:)!!!!

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    Benny, im a really new knifemaker as well. Only technically 1.5 years and very little finished projects to date. My advice to you and your fellas, is not spend a lot of money off the get go. Unless your trees grow it. I spent to much money on everything, trying to get everything I could buy and quickly try and learn how to do it. In retrospect, I wish I had did one thing at a time and started at the bear basics because now I'm back tracking. Just my .2$ anyways. Hope you all find as much joy in this trade as we all do. Cheers
     
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    Benny28 New Member

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    Snailgixxer,

    I work in an industry that does a lot of steel fabrication, so we have 2 dumpsters of scrap steel and 1 for aluminum. So I get my steel for free. Once I get confident in knife making I'll start buying proper high carbon steel, but for now I'm "cutting my teeth" on this unknown steel.

    I have a bit of a wood shop at home, so making handles and such will be "old ground" for me. I already have my angle grinder and a polisher and it just purchased a metal file set. So I'm set in the way of tools.

    I'll buy some 1084 to do my chef knife, but those will be near the end of the summer and I've gotten a bunch of steel from our bins at work, so I'm hoping to have a bunch of knives by the time I do my chefs knife.

    I value everyone's $.02, it is all good info.
     
  18. snailgixxer

    snailgixxer Golf season is here:)!!!!

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    Yeah, I don't mean anything negative. Just speaking from experience, I've put money into things I don't need yet or at all. But my .2$ is worth like .05$ lol
     
  19. Benny28

    Benny28 New Member

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    Hey Dan, I'm not electrically incline but we have a few electrical guys at work that are pretty fantastic, I'm sure between them both they could make something work for me.

    I'm just loving this. Already started a new design and am going to get 5 or 6 ready for our BBQ afternoon. I'll post s
     

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