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Hydraulic pin press

Discussion in 'Other Tools' started by dancom, Oct 19, 2014.

  1. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker

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    The art of making stainless steel pins disappear into bolsters seems to come down to three things:

    1). Using very similar material for both bolster and pin
    2). Cleaning the pin and hole very well.
    3). Expanding the pin in the hole as best as possible to eliminate any microscopic gap.

    I've tried with a ball pein hammer and had less than ideal success. A fellow knifemaker (in this forum) demonstrated the use of a hydraulic press and his results were impressive. But...I had no press.

    Enter an inexpensive 6 ton bottle jack and some steel and now I am going to MacGyver something again. One design feature I want is to be able to remove the bottle jack and replace it without easily.

    The approximate design looks like this:

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    Major Items

    • A - 3Cx6# 3" C-Channel, (heavy 0.325"). 12" long. QTY 2
    • B - 3" x 4" x 1/4" plate
    • C - 6 Ton Hydraulic Bottle Jack
    • D - 1" Round bar.
    • E - Threaded Rod 3/4"- 10 x 16" long. QTY 2
    • F - Tubing, 3/4" ID, 12" long QTY 2
    • G - Jack cap (or ram cap), see detail.
    I happened to have some heavy duty 3" C channel sitting in my garage and I figured I'd get some threaded rod and make a frame. The question I had was "What is the strength of the rod?" I did some research and found that most threaded rod is Grade 2 (low carbon steel), which is not really strong. But if the rod is sized right it will suit my needs.

    Grade 2 threaded rod is rated at 55 ksi (ksi = thousand pounds per square inch) proof load. So I need to figure out the square inches of some common rod sizes. The formula area (A) of a circle as you may remember from school is "Pie are Square":

    A= πr2

    For 3/4" rod I enter pi and a radius of 0.375" like this:

    A=3.14·0.375·0.375

    A≈0.44​

    So 0.44 square inches multiplied by the ksi rating of 55 is around 24 or 24,000 pounds per rod.

    As there are two of these rods we can double the rating to 48,000 pounds or just under 25 tons.

    I could use something smaller, but I like over building stuff and 3/4" is cheap enough.

    I made a spreadsheet in Excel to show some of the proof loads for various NC (National Coarse thread) Grade 2 rod. See below.

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    Of course if you can get your hands on some Grade 5 rod, then the ksi should be around the 85 which is more than 50% stronger than Grade 2. In any case, we know what to expect from certain diameter rod and the associated nuts.

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    I cut the C channel on the band saw into two 12" pieces.

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    Using a 3/4" SAE washer I marked the holes. These ended up being 3/4" in from the end and in the centre (1-1/2").

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    A 3/4" bi-metal hole saw and some cutting fluid works great for making the large holes. Go slowly and keep the heat down.

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    Now we need to mark the centre of the bottom for placing the jack.

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    Cut the 3/4" threaded rod to 16" lengths and clean up the ends to the nuts thread on easily.

    Note: I could not find Grade 5 nuts in 3/4" so I had to use Grade 8. These are cadmium plated. Just a reminder, NEVER EVER WELD CADMIUM.

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    I used a couple of pieces of 3/8" x 1/2" bar stock for the jack hold downs. Depending on your jack you may only need a few bolts or you my have to rig something similar that clamps the jack into place.

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    Two 12" pieces of 3/4" electrical conduit (EMT) make a nice cover for the threaded rod. This doesn't add any strength, but will protect your hands from the sharp threads.

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    This is the view of the top member. The flat washers will help distribute the load.

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    A photo of the basic assembly. Now to add the parts for contact area.

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    If the jack base is set properly, the cylinder should be at the 6" mark (on center). Here I am using the jack to temporarily hold the contact bar in place.

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    See Part II
     
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  2. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker

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    Once under pressure, I marked the plate for where to mount the round bar and tack welded it in place.

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    You may opt for a no-weld version and drill and bolt the plate to the top member and use a flat head 1/4" bolt threaded into tapped hole in the round bar. This would be easy to remove and replace if necessary.

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    The jack cap is a piece of pipe with some plates attached to it. It slips over the jack and becomes the second contact point. I had some scrap 1/4" x 2" plate so I made a reasonable cap by stacking a few of these and tack welding them. You could use the jack itself, but the surface is grooved to reduce slipping. What we want is a smoother surface for pressing. I could have ground the the cap smooth, but that sort of defeats the remove and replace concept behind build.

    My particular jack requires something with an inside diameter of 1.25" or so. Some schedule 40 pipe does the trick as it's only meant to slip over the ram.

    Legs:
    You will probably want to add some angles for mounting to your bench. A couple of clamps would work just a well. I had two corner lift plates from an industrial enclosure and they already had 3/4" nuts welded in place. I simply screwed them on the bottoms of the threaded rods.


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    Design notes:

    It would be cool to add some magnets to the press to hold the jack handles when they are not being used.

    Perhaps two springs could force the jack back down when the release valve is opened. Not a big deal for me, but if you used this 100 times a day, you'd be wishing it came back down by itself.

    Good luck if you go and make your own. Let me know how it works out.

    Regards,

    Dan
     
  3. Jim T

    Jim T Active Member

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    You really are the 21st century McGyver, Dan! That's brilliant! Thanks for sharing.

    Jim T
     
  4. Icho-

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    I like it Dan! Have you tried it yet? I was going to get a big shop press but i may go this route instead. I've been thinking of an attachment to make that has a spring loaded pad to push the bolsters tight against the blade then at the bottom of the stroke the pin gets crashed.
     
  5. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker

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    I have crushed a few things to test. Brass rod and cold rolled squishes pretty easily, but I have yet to press some 'real' pins. 15,000 psi can do a lot of squishing though.

    I will revisit Cal's tutorial here and see how it goes. He has some cool "push" plates to squeeze the bolsters before the pins.

    Dan
     
  6. Tony Manifold

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    I was thinking of something similar with an air powered hydraulic jack. I think I could easily adapt that design to the compressed air version. Keep them coming.
     
  7. Grouch

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    I built one with a 10 ton air over porta pak type jack. Got the porta-pak at a garage sale for $25 a couple years ago. It has the foot control style pump which leaves both hands free to line stuff up. I think they are fairly common with the hand pump on them for sale used.
    Frank

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  8. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker

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    That's sweet Frank. 10 tons should squish just about anything you throw under there. Great deal on the Porta-Pak too. Gotta love garage sales!

    Dan
     
  9. Grouch

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    Ya Dan
    I didn't know what I was going to use it for at the time but for $25 I had to take it.
    I had a big press but I sold it. I found it a little clumsy for pins anyway.
    I made this one tall incase I still needed to push on an axle bearing or something that's long.
    It works really nice its actually alot more controllable than I expected when I built it. With some inventive blocks of wood they straighten blades pretty well too sometimes.
    Frank
     
  10. Rob W

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    same story different shop..........Dan I think your hammer may be to small !!!! :p

    neat idea with a press, I think the key in the 'old school' guard/bolster pin method is proper hammer weight and technique coupled with properly matched pin material for dissapearing pins.......
     
  11. dancom

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    The wife seems to like it. :)

    Yes and cleaning all the parts well.
     

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