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Hard To Compare But... Pheer Vs Bee. Thoughts?

Discussion in 'Grinders' started by Big Bear, Jul 6, 2016.

  1. Big Bear

    Big Bear New Member

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    I thought I had it all figured out. Decided on a grinder that would do it all for me. Pheer 454 with 1.5hp, vfd, 10in contact wheel, flat platen, small wheel attachment and a set of steel small wheels all in a direct drive set up that can be flipped on it's side to serve as a horizontal belt grinder. All that for $2330 USD shipped to my buddy in VT. But then I did the exchange to CDN and added the tax I'd pay at the border and the total jumped to just shy of $3500.

    Started thinking to myself if I'm gonna spend that much I might as well get a Bee. I'd rather buy a Canadian made grinder for 3 grand than pay 3 grand for a 2 thousand dollar grinder made in the states. Not sure if that makes any sense.

    My reservations are that I know very little about the Bee. Never seen one, met anyone who uses one or even seen a youtube video of someone using one. On top of that I can't find any reviews online and the company doesn't even seem to have a website. Having a hard time making the call.

    Any advice or relevant experience would be much appreciated. Sell me on the Bee!
     
  2. J. Bartram

    J. Bartram New Member

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    I've been using the 1 hp bee for four years now. Got the flat platen and the 8 inch wheel and a half inch small contact wheel. The platen comes with a steel plate that i replaced with kiln glass. I will say that it hauls a$$!! Has solid tracking and is well made, I've run thousands of dollars of belts through it and it shows no sign of failing. It comes with a spark catching tray that i promptly removed as well and the side door just for speed of belt change.
    I would go for the variable speed if i had to do over again. The small wheel gave me quite a fright when it exploded running at speed, those bearings just weren't made to go that fast. The platens construction is a plate screwed to an angle and the angle is wider than the platen so i cut that down on the right side to flush with the top and bottom contact wheels. It's also only open on the right, so if you intend on getting even plunges with a file guide you'd better practice the Harvey dean method of grinding all on one side of the platen. All in all its fine machine, and my style has adapted to work with its few limitations and I'd not complain about it for a second. I know multiple award winning maker and past president of the wcka roger hatt uses bee grinders and sings their praises. Also master smith wally hayes uses one and you should be able to get some video on you tube of him. That's my two cents. Hope it helps at all.

    Jesse
     
  3. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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    Seems strange for a company not to have a web presence in this day and age. found out they are in Woodstock Ontario and company name is Bee Metal Products Ltd.
     
  4. bobbybirds

    bobbybirds Best New Maker

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    A local sword maker here swears by his Bee. Say he abused the tar out of it for many years and still runs like a champ! Apparently it is untouchable in the grinding dust safety department as well...

    I would have went that route if the KMG deal hadn't worked out so well for me. Long run will be less than half the price with a 3hp vfd and KMG than for the Bee with a 2HP motor. Granted that is largely because of my buddy hooking me up with the motor and VFD but still the value of a KMG is undeniable...
     
  5. dancom

    dancom Dust Maker Best Shop Tool

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    I have never used either, but I having researched this topic before, I'd go with the Bee.
    Take a look at what Rob has to say at 3:20



    Dan
     
  6. Mythtaken

    Mythtaken Staff Member CKM Staff

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    I have to say I love my variable speed Bee grinder. I don't think I'd trade it for any other.
     
  7. Big Bear

    Big Bear New Member

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    Hey guys,
    Haven't had a chance to get on here for a while. Moved house, spent some time on the road and had to build a new shop. Oh, and I bought a BEE! Thanks very much for taking the time to share your thoughts and experiences. I got a 1 hp with a vfd, 10in wheel, flat platen and a couple small wheels. Haven't made a knife on it yet but can't wait. Top notch design and build quality though. No complaints. I'll be doing a bit of a review/overview of the machine once I've spent some time with it but so far I couldn't be happier.
    Cheers!
     
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