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Damascus Quality?

Discussion in 'Steel, Hardware, & Handle Material' started by parker, Jun 9, 2017.

  1. parker

    parker Active Member

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    hey all
    I have an opportunity to pick up some Damascus plat or bar stock at I highly reduced price. my question is if there's no brand or makers info on it, is it worth trying. as there's a high chance it could be from over seas and poor quality. its from a knife and sword shop... they have 100 -200 price tags atm

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  2. Mythtaken

    Mythtaken Staff Member CKM Staff

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    As always, it's buyer beware. The damascus could be just fine -- maybe an overstock issue or a pattern that hasn't sold well. Or it could be poorly made with lots of inclusions, or some other problem. I try to have a "glass half full" outlook, so if the price is good and it won't be the end of the world if it doesn't work out, I'd give it a go.
     
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  3. FORGE

    FORGE Maker of the Year Best Knife

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    It might be the end of the world if it only hardens to RC30 and is made out of junk steel.
    Myth I seem to remember doing one for Dave that fell into that category and I believe he paid nearly $200 for that piece of steel.
     
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  4. parker

    parker Active Member

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    the store owner passed away and no one there knows where he got it, so they say, but they want to get rid of everything cheap so they can sell the building. they gave me awesome deals on lots of stuff but the Damascus scares me might pass on it.
    there is a guy local to me selling "homemade" Damascus knives with file work down the spine and a leather sheath for $40 kinda had to tell people what you would make a knife for and not even make $5 an hour doing it more for the fun, when they see this guy haha on a side note someone bought one and it blow up on him.... so im afraid to buy unknown steel, but I have a friend that wants Damascus
     
  5. ahlsy

    ahlsy New Member

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    Ask your friend if he'll take a chance on the damascus. Have him buy the plate he wants, then trade your knifemaking services for the remainder of the plate...
     
  6. parker

    parker Active Member

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    That's actually a good idea, because I already worned him about it and he just wants one from me to add to his collection, so if it turns out holding up I've got the rest of the plate.
    Thanks
     
  7. John Noon

    John Noon Well-Known Member

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  8. parker

    parker Active Member

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    That's was my guess as well. im a new maker but when people want me to make them a knife my time is not free and the supplies mainly. So when I say I've got 60and up into a knife and buddy's at 40 with a leathe sheath it's hard to compare to the average person
     
  9. Grahamm

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    That $40 doesn't make any sense at all. It's gotta be overseas etc. Nobody can make a profit at that and I agree, your time is worth a lot more than that. I did a quick tally on a recent knife and $100 was the lowest I could go without doing it for free. Now if it's a friend and you want to "gift" a percentage that's different. Heck, leather scraps at Lens Mill over in Woodstock are $25 a lb. You won't use that much in a sheath but you will use $5 at least. That just makes no sense for anything "handmade".

    Regarding the Damascus. I think that the prices they had on stuff that I looked at were way high. Now if you can get a deal on it given the situation maybe it's worth trying. I would make them an offer.
    I am going in Monday to look at a few things but what I saw last time was pretty highly "valued" initially.
     
  10. Grahamm

    Grahamm Active Member

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    How did you make your spike knife? Torch? If you have a forge I have a source for steel. My plan after I get back from vacation next week is to redo my shop and look at a forge. So eventually maybe we can work something out but I would have a long way to go before feeling confident obviously.
     
  11. parker

    parker Active Member

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    Yes I built a forge, two burner brick forge with a steel box around the bricks
     
  12. Mythtaken

    Mythtaken Staff Member CKM Staff

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    I agree, it's easy to get burned (no pun intended ;)) when buying damascus, whether it's foreign or local. But you can also get good deals. Sometimes the only way to find out is to take a chance.

    This is also one of the reasons I don't care much for pattern welded steel.
     
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