These two are a couple of quick and dirty knives i recently finished up. They are both 1084 and are strictly no frills users. The wharny style is just a simple light weight epoxy soaked cord wrap, and is just made to be thrown in a bag as a utility backup knife for fishing, hunting camping etc. basically to cut rope or beat up on something you dont want to use a good knife for. Took about an hour not including the tempering cycles. The second one has a blue dymondwood handle (haven't bought any for a long time but came across a bunch that was free so figured why not use it). Its a user that was done for my father in law on short notice (forgot his birthday until 2 days before the date) and will basically be used for hunting and processing a bit of game. He will get a fancier one eventually but said he liked the rougher finishes that he doesnt have to worry about scratching up. I basically hit the whole thing on a 220 and then leaned into a buff with green compound to blend it out a bit and help limit corrosion. Like i said, they are quick, they are dirty, they are rough, but they cut well. Both were made the same day.