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Kme Sharpening System Review.

Discussion in 'Sharpening' started by wade7575, Jan 22, 2017.

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    wade7575 New Member

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    I was looking around the Net for a forum in Canada that had to do with knife's like the bladeforums but more to do with Canada and Canadian knife makers,when I started looking threw the forum I checked to see if anyone was the KME Sharpening system as that's the one I have and have been using for about 3 years now.

    When I was looking threw the forums and before I did any posting I seen a few were using the lansky system and one guy I think was using the Gatco system and I Pm'd them asking if they had ever heard of or used the KME and they said no so I told them I would do a review as they said it was an interesting system and would like to know more.I also want to be clear I'm not a sale's person for KME but I do know Ron the owner of KME from talking to him on the phone.


    The first thing I'll say about KME is that they really make a good product and they really stand behind what they sell and Ron is always more then happy to help anyone needing advice or help if they got a bad part,you find a much better person then Ron when it comes to shipping you out a new part fast if you have a problem.
     
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    Here is picture of my first KME

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    My second second KME I just built about 4 to 6 weeks ago to better suite my needs.

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    Being mounted to something makes it easier on my arm when I'm sharpening more then one knife.
     
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    Now I'll tak about the accessories I have collected or the 3 years of owning my KME.

    These are Chosera water stones and Kanagroo leather strop's,I use the 1K 3K 5K and 10K Chosera's and my Suehiro water stones when it comes to water stones.

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    Here are my Suehiro water stones,I purchased them about 4 weeks ago from Ken Schwartz who is an extreme wealth of knowledge when it comes to sharpening and stones,Ken import's both natural Japanese and synthetic sharpening stones.
    From what Ken told me about the Suehiro 10K stone it is really 15K when you compare the particle size of the grit to the Chosera 10K and the Suehiro is closer to a 25K when compared again to the Chosera,they do make the edge a bit sharper then the Chosera 10K.

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    Here are a few stropping emulsion's I got from Ken Schwartz as well,he also makes and the emulsion's that KME sell's as well,the emulsion's are made from Cubic Boron Nitride and it is reallyhard stuff.
    I have .25 and .10 Micron and the .10 is equivalent to 240K grit,I got these 2oz bottles from Ken as I do a lot of sharpening and go threw the KME 1/4 oz bottles to fast but for most people the 1/4 oz i going to last you a while.

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    I also have the Convexing guide rod by KME and it seemed to be working really good for me,I just got it and have done a few knife's and they have out really sharp.

    The guide rod closest in the picture is the standard guide you will get with your KME,the rod farther back is the convexing guide rod and it has a 5 degree bend in it.

    What this video to learn more about it and I will go into it later.



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    I also have KME's stone thickness compensator and I took picture's of it attached to the KME and if you watch the video you'll understand what it does.

     
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    Now I'll go more into the tips and tricks I have learned about the KME,these are some Chosera's I have JB welded to 1/8th aluminum that way you will get more life out of the stones,I just used JB weld original formula.

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    Chosera with 1/8th aluminum plated JB weleded to it.

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    I almost forgot to mention my KME gold series diamond hones,Ron from KME carries both the DMT and his own gold series dimond hones,the gold series are a much longer lasting hone then the DMT's and the gold series are jeweler's quality and the electro plating is muh better on the gold series.

    Ron carried the DMT's before he found the company that makes his gold series diamond hones.

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    Also here are some Shapton stones that Mark Richmond from Chef Knives to Go cut to legnth for me and they were made for the edge pro system.
    I need to go back and try these stones again as I was using them as splash and go and I was told that's the way to use them and I'm thinking if I soak them for 15 or 20 minutes they may work better.

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    Ok now I will get back to how to use the KME.

    Here is one of my knife in the KME and I'm using the convexing guide rod as well,I'm using the angle cube to show what angle's you can sharpen at.When you use the KME convexing guide rod you need to et your angle at 5 degree's lower then what you want the edge to be at.

    So what you will do first is clamp the knife in the jaws of the KME and then then push the stone carrier as forwards as you can get it without coming off the edge of the knife and then set you angle,if you want an edge that is 20 degree's you need to set the angle for 15 degree's to compensate for the 5 degree bend in the guide rod.

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    I also have Japanese Chef knives and they get sharpened to 10 to 12 degree's here is one waiting for the KME treatment.

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    Now if you look at the center shaft on my KME's you see that I have 2 spacer bushing your will come with just one,I have the original 1/2 inch spacer bushing and the new 3/4 inch installed.The reason why is simple if you look at the picture below you can see the stone would hit the black Tri-Wing nut so to be able to sharpen at lower angle's that is needed and if you were to ask Ron for another 3/4 inch spaer bushing I'm sure he would set you up with one,most people do ot need the extra spacer bushing that are just sharpening pocket and bush knive's

    You will need to get the 3/4 inch turned down at a machine shop as Ron only supply's the 3/4 inch spacer bushing and does not have anymore of the 1/2 left from what I understand.
    I also usethe angle adjuster the has the white ball in it flipped upside down to get lower angle's depending on the knife I'm sharpening but again most people that are sharpening pocket and hunting knives are not going to have to worry about that,it's extremely easy and fast to flip this part over.

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    I know that the stone will never go this far ahead I'm just showing it like this becasue I did not want to take everything apart but if you imagine the longer spacer bushing not being there then you an see it would hit.
     
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    Another great feature of the KME system is that the Jaws rotate allowing you to flp the knife over and not the whole system.

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    Let's go back to the Chosera stone's for a moment,when I first purchased mine I was reading about how everyone that owned an edge pro and who was using the Chosera stones and that was soaking them said they were cracking it was really more like 3 or 5 guys that had that problem then everyone said that's because Chosera's are a splash and go stone witch is not true at all,now no one is complaining about cracking may have just been a few bad stone's.

    I soak mine for 15 minute's then I start sharpening,I tried using them as splash and go and they glazed over and I had to soak them for 15 minute's and then use a 140 grit diamond hone to remove the glaze as they would not cut into the metal anymore.Also when you are sharpening more then one knife in a session take the stone when you are done with it and rinse it off really good then put it back into soak with your other stones,the reason for this is there no point putting a dirty 1K stone in with your 10K stone and expecting to get a really fine edge when you contaminated your water with a coarser grit.
     
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    Here is my finished Zero Tolerance 0566 and you can see the edge I can procude with the KME.

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    I also want to be clear I'm not a sale's person for KME and I do not get free stuff to promote their stuff either and everything I have paid for and the only 2 thing's I have gotten for free from Ron were backer plate's that hold the jaws onto the system as mine were bent in to far and would not let the jaws close fully and the spacer bushing's I needed to be able to sharpen my Japanese Chefe knives,I just do want anyone to think I'm trying to advertise on this site,I just love a scary sharp knife and wanted to share my KME experience with you guys on this forum.
     
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    If you wondering about what knive's I own here is a full list of picture's.

    I have a pair of ZT 0566's

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    ZT 0560

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    A RJ Martin designed ZT 0606CF

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    Rick Hinderer XM-18 with Bowie blade

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    Fujiwara 180 Santokus and I also have a Fujiwara 210mm Gyuto I thought I took a picture of it to,these knives are 65RC hardness I forget the steel they are made from but Fujiwara is one of the best at heat treating this steel from what I rememeber.

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    Sukenari 240mm Gyuto made from ZDP-189 67RC hardness,also I can slice hard crusty bread with these knives no problem at all.

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    One last thing I forgot to mention about the KME and that is you can also sharpen broadheads if you get their jaws for that,I also have a pair.

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    I can not delete the part where I asked you guys not to comment until this thread was finished and it is so feel free to post in this thread now and ask me anything you may want to know that I did not cover very well.I have to go to work for a few hours and there are a few other small thing's I wanted to cover and I will do this later.
     
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    Also so one lucky person on this forum can see what kind of result's can be produced with the KME System.

    Just be the first to respond to this thread you must meet the following.
    You must have a quality knife like a Zero Tolerance Spyderco or Rick Hinderer and so you on you get the idea and must have a a good blade steel like a powdered metal blade,the reason for this is because that's where you are going to see the best result's.I will also consider none powdered metal blade's so long as they are at least a 60RC hardness or more.

    I will not choose any recurve blades as I have never done one and from what I unerstand you need more stuff then I have to do them.

    Also I preffer it to be Flipper or Folding type knife and I must see a picture of it before hand and I would like to know the blade steel as well,I would do one that is S30V S35VN Elmax and so on.
    Just before the first to post a knife like what I'm asking for in this thread and I will sharpen it for you and all you need to do is pay the shipping both ways and I would preffer Canada Post and Signature required and you must live in Canada.

    I will help you choose angle that you want and I will do a V grind standard edge or a Convex edge your choice and I will use every Chosera I have and that means the 1K 3K 5K 10K and the Suehiro 10K and 20K plus I will strop it with my .25 and .10 micron emulsion.


    Also the same goes for any hunters on this forum just be the first to respond and I will sharpen your broadhaeds providing they are a standard broadhead that has a triangle shape to them and I must see a picture of them first before I decide to make sure I can make them work with jaws.
     

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